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KYM Pony General VIII: One Pony Away From a Cease and Desist

Last posted May 19, 2022 at 09:55PM EDT. Added Jul 06, 2014 at 11:32AM EDT
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Is it fair to post without spoilers now? I guess I can give it another few days since it hasn't even been a week yet.

I loved it! There were so many little things that you could miss in the beginning, but it was awesome.

@the cupcake throwing scene

Pinkie went full crazy, but I definitely felt like it was a nod to this season 2 scene:

Also I loved that Cheese Sandwich made an appearance even if Weird Al didn't get any lines because it was in the middle of a song.

@songs

I've listened to the soundtrack like 20 times, but now that i've seen the movie I'm a bit confused. Half the end tracks aren't even in the movie, and the opening movie track (Ponies Got The Beat) wasn't even on the soundtrack.

@even more on the last point

Apparently there was an alternate opening sequence. It was swapped out last minute with Ponies Got The Beat.

Edit: Page get. Have a pony thing.

Last edited Oct 11, 2017 at 11:10AM EDT

Beatrice Santello wrote:

So should I watch this movie even though I'm currently "in hiatus" from the MLP Fandom?

I did. I pretty much haven't watched any episodes of the last two seasons. This movie is pretty stand alone. It contains some minor references, but nothing you wouldn't get if you hadn't watched anything past season 2.

The Cute Master :3 wrote:

I did. I pretty much haven't watched any episodes of the last two seasons. This movie is pretty stand alone. It contains some minor references, but nothing you wouldn't get if you hadn't watched anything past season 2.

I've not seen the movie myself, but I heard that one character who's been important for seasons 5, 6 and 7 shows up in the movie for a minor part.

… The obvious follow up question is "does she say anything, or does anypony say anything about her, that could be construed as a spoiler; or is her mere presence and familiarity to the mane 6 otherwise confusing to anyone who does not know who she is?"

She's just a background pony in the movie so if you don't know who she is you won't even notice her in the crowd.

@The Cute Master :3

nothing you wouldn’t get if you hadn’t watched anything past season 2.

You mean season 3, that's the one with a permanent change.

Baluh the Alchemist Horse wrote:

She's just a background pony in the movie so if you don't know who she is you won't even notice her in the crowd.

@The Cute Master :3

nothing you wouldn’t get if you hadn’t watched anything past season 2.

You mean season 3, that's the one with a permanent change.

It is a bit of a spoiler, though, because she shows up with Trixie, who, unless you've watched Season 6, should still be an antagonist.

I'm not sure if the spoiler tag is necessary at this point but, not going to risk anything, I'll use it. It's only a simple thought I had from the finale and some other stuff.

Star Swirl, Stygian, Rockhoof, Somnambula, Mistmane, Flash Magnus, Meadowbrook. Those are 7 characters who are alive and well, which means that the possibilites for telling stories with all of them, interacting with each other or everybody else, have expanded immensely. Besides, the fact that they returned to, say, "the modern world" will be an interesting theme. Will they have a hard time trying to adjust themselves like Luna or are they going to fit right in? Only time will tell.

Anyway, with elements of the movie making a comeback in Season 8, like the seaponies (or hippogriffs if you will), I can't help but think that future is just brighter than ever.

All I'm wishing is for Scorpan finally showing up, after all, guy's a gargoyle and the world needs more gargoyles. With Tirek making a return and Starswirl out there, a reunion seems inevitable.

Last edited Oct 29, 2017 at 10:07AM EDT

One thing from the finale that has been bothering me:

Ok, so the first episode of the finale did this neat thing with Starswirl's journal being written in Old Ponish, which from the sound of it is basically Old English with some modification. That's great worldbuilding! Over a thousand years the pony language evolved! Cool!

Then the Pillars show up and all of them speak perfect modern English, plus or minus an accent. Boo!

Like, this would have been easy to fix. They could have had Starswirl show up, babble incessantly in Old Ponish for a bit, and then Twi casts a spell that translates his speech into English. Bam – world-building preserved.

But instead they imply that he was, for reasons unknown, writing his journal in an ancient language that nobody uses for . . . some reason? Like, maybe he wanted to keep his spells a secret? But wouldn't coming up with a cipher be better, since with a real language anyone with a grammar book can crack your code? This makes no sense.

The bit about his handwriting being illegible was the realest shit though. I've spent some time looking at James Joyce's manuscripts and they're fucking impossible. And I feel bad for my medievalist friends who have to try to make sense of Latin cursive script. Like, there are maybe five people in the world who can read Thomas Aquinas's letters in the original – not because of the language (it's medieval Latin, nothing special) but because his handwriting is basically just a jumble of disconnected vertical lines. It's impossible. I love it. So I'm basically going to assume that Starswirl's writing worked the same way.

March-ish of 2011. My roommate got me to watch Green Isn't Your Color / A Dog and Pony Show. I thought nothing of it for about 2 weeks, then I watch a few more and next thing I know I'm watching all of season 1, then I'm on Ponychan, then all of a sudden I'm on here.

Last week of September, 2011.

During the… I'm gonna call it "The Golden Age" of Gametrailers, I was going around in some random threads in the forums when I noticed that several users had a curious art style embedded below their comments that involved this kind of expression. I thought it was smooth. Back then there used to be blogs, so I read one that was basically a general introduction for FiM which had a link for the pilot episode. I was hooked and the rest is history.

Last edited Dec 10, 2017 at 04:58PM EST

I got into it I think right after season 1 ended. I remember I started posting a lot here during the first hiatus, when the new pony memes were coming almost every week – pretty sure my first page I ever wrote was for Sitting Lyra.

I distinctly remember the period when we knew that the season 2 premier would involve a "new character" named Discord, but had no idea who or what he was. I was reading the comments on the main MLP page (since that's where we posted pre-Pony General) and someone posted this:

Good times.

Anyway, as for joining KYM, I had actually made an account several months before getting into MLP because I wanted to post an image on the Puking Rainbows page. After that I lurked a little bit but was mostly inactive. I only started posting a lot so I could document all the MLP sub-memes.

First heard about MLP FIM from this site around early ish 2011. I assumed at first it was a reboot directed towards an older audience and I thought it was a mad genius concept that they would take a show with the title My Little Pony which was meant for young girls and turn it into more of an adult's cartoon.

After finding out that wasn't the case I thought "Oh, so the meme is that it's a show meant for young girls but adult males are watching it because hahah lolz."

That wasn't the case either.

I did enjoy the show myself but I didn't get into any of the things most fans were into, I just liked MLP from the sideline, in other words I watched the show on my smartphone with headphones on, in the closet, with the house empty, lights off and all the doors locked.

It's bizarre to remember how massive this show was and how it made it's way into everything at one point.

Story Imma be telling my grandkids ^

I thank mlp now mainly for True Capitalist Radio, my all time favorite podcast.

The Cute Master :3 wrote:

True Capitalist Radio

Oh wow! What a throwback. xD

Ikr. If you didn't already know, he came back April of last year after a 4 year absence. I thought the shows he did in 2016 were phenomenal. He took another break in the beginning of this year but just came back again on Oct 31st. I haven't seen the new episodes though.

Last edited Dec 10, 2017 at 07:43PM EST

Alright. Time to end the fandom. We've gone too far.

Edit: Actually, I don't think this ever got posted in this thread. Only 3 minutes in so far and it's great. Super on topic with the thread title. xD

Last edited Dec 11, 2017 at 01:02AM EST

Hm, well, I joined roughly around late 2012, mostly because of morbid curiosity of all the pony pics KYM had.Then, I started to draw, and I still do, but I'd rather not post what I draw now. It's been a wild ride.

Amongus wrote:

so when did you start watching and joined this community

me around 2012
good old times

I was browsing parodies of this video back in 2011

I saw clips of MLP in YouTube's related videos section and got curious. I clicked more and more, next thing I knew in August 2011 I started watching the show. I also visited KYM those times, but it wasn't until July 2013 that I joined.

vintiezre wrote:

Hm, well, I joined roughly around late 2012, mostly because of morbid curiosity of all the pony pics KYM had.Then, I started to draw, and I still do, but I'd rather not post what I draw now. It's been a wild ride.

DRAWING YOU SAY!?

(holi vinti :v )

I joined 2012 or something after watching cupcakes HD (thought it was a pretty hilarious parody of the old MLP show with an original style), then started seeing ponies everywhere, got curious.

Last edited Dec 13, 2017 at 06:51PM EST

Legendario13 wrote:

DRAWING YOU SAY!?

(holi vinti :v )

I joined 2012 or something after watching cupcakes HD (thought it was a pretty hilarious parody of the old MLP show with an original style), then started seeing ponies everywhere, got curious.

Omg, hai

In case anyone didn't know, there has been a major happening. As in, 4chan mods are playing music in /mlp/ for the first time since Twilicorn.

A russian hacker hacked both Hasbro and DHX, taking several unfinished S8 episodes, a new intro for S8, the titles and synopses for all of S8, concept art for S9 and--most importantly--Hasbro's plans for Gen 5.

Hasbro is planning to end MLP: FiM in 2019 with S9 and a special/movie. Things reboot in 2020 with a special/movie that serves as a "prequel" to Gen 5, which starts later that year. It's planned to be a complete reboot, with no connection, save for character and location names, with Gen 4, as would be expected from a new MLP generation. Below are some of the leaked documents.


Gen 5 concept art.


McCarthy discussing character changes, especially for AJ, for Gen 5.


S8 titles and synopses.

Based on the quality of the leak, it's highly unlikely any of it is fake/trolling. The Gen 4 ride will be ending in two years.

Last edited Dec 17, 2017 at 07:00PM EST

Having gone over the leaked stuff (not including the unfinished episodes), I'm actually pretty optimistic. Nine seasons is a loooooong time for a show to be on, especially a childrens' cartoon, and it's pretty clear by now that the show is running out of stuff to do with these characters as they are.

Like, how many times have we seen "X learns a lesson we thought they've known since season 2" in an episode? That's more or less what happens when something like this lasts so long – the characters finish evolving and solve their lingering problems. Dash joins the Wonderbolts, Shy learns to be assertive, Twi evolves from friendship student to friendship teacher. And while adding Starlight, I think, has been good for the show and for evolving everyone else's motivations, it has come at the cost of deemphasizing elements that in earlier seasons were core parts of the premise. I mean, the whole point of the "friendship problems" table is to make episodes about solving someone else's character problem, since the mane six no longer had many problems of their own to solve. The premise has started to decay, and so the show is losing its direction.

A reboot fixes a lot of these issues, especially since it looks like most of the characters are staying close to how they are. A new version of, say, Fluttershy can take her base character and give it new flaws and insecurities that she can evolve around. For instance, instead of making her problem assertiveness, they could give her a goal like Dash had – to join some group, or start a wildlife sanctuary, or something like that. In fact, I'm surprised they never gave her a more "big picture" motivation in all this time, since it would have solved a lot of the staleness issues with her stories. The leaks seem to show them doing that with Twi in S8, which I think is a good decision. Interesting characters need to want things, since desire gives them an excuse to exert agency over the story. Without desire, characters become passive, and therefore boring.

I also hope they take this as an opportunity to bring a more coherent "big picture" perspective than they had in G4. It's pretty clear, I think, that Faust leaving after S2 hurt the show by depriving it of a central vision. She had a world and a trajectory in her head that was abandoned when she left and not replaced with anything better. While the writers tried their best, a lot of the issues with things like Twi getting wings I think can be chalked up to a lack of wider perspective on the general plot – had it been in the cards from the beginning, it would have been handled better. A related issue is that the show was never intended to go for nine seasons, which I think is why S3 was short (it would have been the last one had it not blown up). Now they have the luxury of knowing, from the get-go, that this series will be a channel flagship that will last for a long time, and so they can plan accordingly.

So anyway, the Tl;Dr: G5 looks similar enough to G4 (and has enough of the same writers) that there's a good chance that it will retain what we all still like about the series while also fixing some of its weaknesses. We all knew that the end would come eventually, and if it has to happen then it is best that it happens like this. G5 could well end up being better than G4 if all goes well, and if nothing else it will at least be new. The fandom can just pick up where it left off.

The response to this Gen 6 idea in the circles I'm currently discussing the show in amount to this:

"What the hell were they thinking with Twilight? How is a magic Cutie Mark supposed to work without a horn?"

Which sounds odd coming from me, given I have a reputation for thinking "hmm… Has any pony ever TRIED using magic without a horn?" and wondering if a pony couldn't brute force it.

… Granted, I think MLP "The Movie" answered that question somewhat… Given that one unicorn with a broken horn using magic wound up being the equivalent of drooling.

Given that one unicorn with a broken horn using magic wound up being the equivalent of drooling.

That unicorn did a better job than Trixie with fireworks tho. Also she was able to shoot magical Medusa blasts and encase ponies in stone. It's fair to say it's possible.

I think they are trying to give more of a struggle to the characters anyways so that they can develop them longer over a bigger story arc.

The Cute Master :3 wrote:

Given that one unicorn with a broken horn using magic wound up being the equivalent of drooling.

That unicorn did a better job than Trixie with fireworks tho. Also she was able to shoot magical Medusa blasts and encase ponies in stone. It's fair to say it's possible.

I think they are trying to give more of a struggle to the characters anyways so that they can develop them longer over a bigger story arc.

They should make G5 Twi a pegasus.

That way, in season five, they can have her grow a horn. And we will have come full circle.

Platus wrote:

They should make G5 Twi a pegasus.

That way, in season five, they can have her grow a horn. And we will have come full circle.

I couldn't really understand the tiny notes. Didn't it say something about them having Pegasus wings on their hoofs? Or hopefully I'm just projecting bad memories of OC designs on these notes.

Edit: Also, this was 8 days ago.

Alright. Time to end the fandom. We’ve gone too far.

I bucking jinxed it. I knew it! ?

Last edited Dec 19, 2017 at 01:14AM EST

Alright so "Forgotten Frienship"? Good, Very good, go watch it right now.

Alright so, first, there are some pretty funny moments, it has a pretty strong emotional torque for the show standards (even if you know that there's no way the memories will be lost forever, just thinking of the possibility is pretty sad), the Trixie/Sunset combo is interesting, and, the best part in my opinion, gives a precious depth to Sunset. Specifically, Sunset's biggest problem with her character has been the full 180 she pulled between the first movie and Rainbow Rocks. It felt weird, and while I got accustomed and started to love her new character, this always feels like a blemish. In any case, In this movie we see her without her friends and being a feared outcast once again, and she starts slipping back into her old self. For me this makes her character more complex by implying that is her friends who make her strive to be a better person, and that just like Starlight, she can slip back a bit in moments of weakness. This softens up the problem with her original 180 by also implying that with support she could really change her perspective, and "Our friends make us better people" goes very well with the show theme.

Tentacles wrote:

Alright so "Forgotten Frienship"? Good, Very good, go watch it right now.

Alright so, first, there are some pretty funny moments, it has a pretty strong emotional torque for the show standards (even if you know that there's no way the memories will be lost forever, just thinking of the possibility is pretty sad), the Trixie/Sunset combo is interesting, and, the best part in my opinion, gives a precious depth to Sunset. Specifically, Sunset's biggest problem with her character has been the full 180 she pulled between the first movie and Rainbow Rocks. It felt weird, and while I got accustomed and started to love her new character, this always feels like a blemish. In any case, In this movie we see her without her friends and being a feared outcast once again, and she starts slipping back into her old self. For me this makes her character more complex by implying that is her friends who make her strive to be a better person, and that just like Starlight, she can slip back a bit in moments of weakness. This softens up the problem with her original 180 by also implying that with support she could really change her perspective, and "Our friends make us better people" goes very well with the show theme.

I'd watch it, and you make a very good case to do so, but…

I can't stomach Equestria Girls.

If it's as good as you say, though, maybe I'll watch it.

Wightprincess wrote:

I'd watch it, and you make a very good case to do so, but…

I can't stomach Equestria Girls.

If it's as good as you say, though, maybe I'll watch it.

Equestria Girls isn't my biggest cup of tea either but i still enjoy them and at least it doesn't always seem to be full of EQG, there's some pony scenes too from what i have seen.
I'm probably just going to wait for a Finnish dub again though.

Wightprincess wrote:

I'd watch it, and you make a very good case to do so, but…

I can't stomach Equestria Girls.

If it's as good as you say, though, maybe I'll watch it.

What's funny is the fact that I hated Equestria Girls. Hell, I STILL can't watch it just because of how much I hated it, and I've tried multiple times since! But Equestria Girls starting with Rainbow Rocks on the otherhand, yeah, I'm a fan now.

@16:53

Whoa. I didn't realized the instruments changed on the character selection screen! That's really awesome! It sounds so good too!


Edit: Also, there's a new MLP screwattack deathbattle video:

Last edited Mar 01, 2018 at 02:55PM EST

@EQG Series:

Wow. So new episodes every Friday? That sounds promising, but how long is this going to drag on??? These episodes are only like 8 min of actual show time.

@EQG Part 2:

Pony Twilight – "I've never heard of any thing like this before!"

Didn't she literally have her friends forget her when the timeline changed? Or basically when their Cutie Marks got switched? Or pretty much when their personalities got changed? I mean given it wasn't exactly the same (and pony Twilight still remembered her, so changes to the timeline are ruled out by that), but she's had approximately the same experience. I know these have to be short, but too much deus ex machina here. I know the whole show is based off deus ex machina tools, but the whole "new library", "new stone", "new magic" gets rehashed a bit too much. Who am I to complain though.

NEW PONY! :3

Last edited Mar 21, 2018 at 11:23PM EDT

Ok, time to catch up on the avalanche of pony.

It took 5 years to give closure to Sunset Shimmer's reunion with Celestia but the wait was worth it. 5 years that, for a brief moment, turned nightmarish when Wallflower rids her of all her memories nearly at the end; it just shows how powerful has been all that time of character development for, if you excuse me, "Bacon Hair". Going back to zero is the worst case scenario. Also, Trixie was super great in the special. More of that, please.

Holy deep sauce shoved in a dinosaur's skull, that's a lot of xenophobia. Ahem… as I was saying, I enjoyed the episodes and they made me think that the Equestria Education Association are ruled by a group of self-rightous, corrupt buroucrats, just like real life! And the fact that the pukwudgies (which I legitametely believed they were bushwoolies) can kill you without you noticing still makes Equestria an extremely dangerous place. Other than that, and just like The Pillars, the "Student 6" have my approval.

Last edited Mar 24, 2018 at 10:35PM EDT

Forgotten Friendship is turning out pretty great! I love this mini series! I'm so glad there's at least 2 more, but I WANT IT NOW! xD

Finally working my way through season 7 and I just finished season 6 Friday. I can't believe I waited so long to watch these episodes! I really need to do a whole re-watch of the series again! I think I found a new favorite episode though:

So much great storyline and imagery in this one. Sure the classic "Freaky Friday" plot was used, but we got a pretty great episode on the royal sisters! I really loved how they addressed the dreamscape again. It seems pretty awesome!

It does open up new questions though. If Celestia doesn't know about her sister's royal duties, what happened for the thousand years that she was banished? Her powers obviously don't work in that realm, so there were no nightmares in that thousand years? Is Luna the source of all nightmares? Time to banish Luna to the moon for the greater good of Equestria again!

The Cute Master :3 wrote:

Forgotten Friendship is turning out pretty great! I love this mini series! I'm so glad there's at least 2 more, but I WANT IT NOW! xD

Finally working my way through season 7 and I just finished season 6 Friday. I can't believe I waited so long to watch these episodes! I really need to do a whole re-watch of the series again! I think I found a new favorite episode though:

So much great storyline and imagery in this one. Sure the classic "Freaky Friday" plot was used, but we got a pretty great episode on the royal sisters! I really loved how they addressed the dreamscape again. It seems pretty awesome!

It does open up new questions though. If Celestia doesn't know about her sister's royal duties, what happened for the thousand years that she was banished? Her powers obviously don't work in that realm, so there were no nightmares in that thousand years? Is Luna the source of all nightmares? Time to banish Luna to the moon for the greater good of Equestria again!

I think Celestia just rised/lowered the Moon and thats it, since she could not enter the Dream Realm. As for Nightmares i think they existed whit no one to stop them.

Wow! So I'm finally at the end of season 7, and why haven't I run across this cursed image before today???

Seriously can't believe it's actually canon RD, but at the same time I guess I wouldn't have guessed this to be canon Rarity a year ago either (although still fabulous).

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